By Meredith
Amy Scheibe's first novel, "What Do You Do All Day?" has a melting orange popsicle on the otherwise pristine white cover. A small pool of sticky, orange syrup is running down the bottom of the cover, most certainly off the edge of a counter we don't see and onto the floor where the heroine of the novel -- an at-home mom -- will undoubtedly, unwittingly step, thus tracking the substance through her New York City abode. As fictional mom Jennifer Bradley traipses through the confusing maze that is at-home parenthood, the author takes her readers on a sometimes funny, sometimes so-real-that-you-wince sojourn.
Amy Scheibe recently answered several questions I posed to her about the book, motherhood and the struggles of at-home parents:
Meredith O'Brien: The protagonist in "What Do You Do All Day?" admits in the first two pages of the book that she'd become "what I once sneered at -– a 'stay-at-home mom' ... And so, my life is hell." Do you think that, for people who were once hard-charging career people, being an at-home parent comes as something of a shock to their systems?
Amy Scheibe: The shock comes with how much your world view is reduced in a matter of months -- a very clever new mom finds her way through this quickly, but I think most are still so busy recovering from the greater shock of childbirth and the hormone roller coaster of the post-partum period that before they know it they're eating Cheerios three times a day and having conversations with stuffed bears!
Meredith: Jennifer concludes her constant questioning of her decision to be at home with her daughter with this observation, "Worst of all is encountering the working mom and measuring my lack of accomplishment against her speedy-quick successes as all my work suits sagged on their hangers. I refuse to regret my decision, even if it turns out to have been the wrong one."
Do you think that the character was ill-suited to be at home as a full-time caretaker, or do you think that such an inquiry is a part of everyone's experience as an at-home parent, the type of inner inquiry that no one really likes to acknowledge for fear people will think that they either aren't up to the task or don't like it?
Amy: I do think that everyone has these questions, and in this particular scene, I'm setting up Jennifer's emotions so that when she does encounter "working moms" in the next scene she realizes how much she's projecting what she thinks once she realizes that these moms are just as befuddled as she is. My main point with this is that the grass always looks greener, no matter how swell you have it.
Meredith: "Child rearing is an isolating occupation," Jennifer says. "...Much of my inner life has become deeply buried, lost in the shuffle of bottles and diapers and carrot sticks." At one point, Jennifer says she's deeply unhappy and feels "bankrupt."
Do you think many at-home moms gets so wrapped up in parenting that they forget about themselves, that they no longer put themselves on any priority list?
Amy: Oh, I wouldn't say "many" but a few certainly do. I think that Jennifer is at a particular point where she feels abandoned by her partner in all of this and is struggling with depression without being able to put her finger on the fact that she is simply depressed. I think she says at some point in the book that there is depression in her family, and for women who are prone to low moods, the monotony of parenting can be devastating.
Meredith: There's a thread that runs through this book that I've heard from many at-home or work-at-home parents about their full-time out-of-the-house spouses: That the spouses who do paid work, who leave the house and don't have to deal with diapers or preschool pick-ups, don't really understand what it's like to be at home 24/7 caring for children. I've heard at-home parents (moms) admit that they sometimes resent that they gave up their careers for their families while their spouse has this business dinner and that business function at a high-end restaurant while the moms are eating the kids' leftover mac-'n-cheese.
Has this been your experience, that there's not a meeting-of-the-minds between the at-home parents and the working spouses? That the working spouses don't "get it" and are apt to ask, "What did you do all day?"
Amy: I don't think the at-work spouses can possibly related to the intense joys or epic tedium that can comprise a day with children. I don't think anyone can unless they are in the middle of it. I know my mother has very little memory of what a swirl children can make of your life -- when she visits, she's constantly saying that our lives are so hectic -- and she had four kids! I do think that the at-work spouses do want to "get it" and many try. But I also think that they love getting on that train Monday morning and putting the chaos behind them.
Meredith: Another theme in the book centers on the relationship between Jennifer and her husband Thom, who is frequently away on business, and whose three-plus months' stint to Singapore causes Jennifer angst. Jennifer laments the change that parenthood -- and her husband's business travel -- has made in their relationship. This excerpt from page 102 particularly struck me: "Okay, gloves off. I'm bitterly mad at Thom. Not for leaving me alone with the children, though I'd have every right, but because he stole my job. My future. My earnings. And he used my love for my babies to do it."
How do you think having a child alters a marriage, specifically the closeness between spouses?
Amy: It seems to me (and I'm still relatively new at this) you have to work incredibly hard to keep your relationship with your partner the primary relationship in your life once you have kids. They are seductive little creatures whose very existences depend on your love and they will suck the love out of you if you let them. And when that happens, it's inevitable that a spouse will want to look elsewhere for a measure of that love. Happily, Jennifer realizes she has drifted into this detachment from Thom before it is too late for them -- but it does take the shock of a potential tryst to shake her up.
Meredith: There was recently a dust-up of sorts on the Internet over an article in an opinion journal where a retired professor said that women who opt to become at-home parents are, essentially, destroying the future for women in the workforce and are betraying their potential. Your main character Jennifer struggles with just this idea, "How did I become this trusting, dependent homebody when my training was survival-based, and feminist-leaning?" Do you think Jennifer's struggle is commonplace?
Amy: I actually think that women are constantly changing themselves and the workplace and that more and more women are waiting to have kids later, when they have more leverage at work and can better design a temporary solution so they can juggle both more effectively. My dream is that in 10 or 20 years at the most, women will be able to choose their situations without judgment from anybody. They'll be able to stay in a career or step out and not be penalized for choosing to parent full time. Jennifer's struggle resonates because she's a romantic, and we all want to be romantics at heart, want to believe that tea parties with children are always fun, that we can all dress in pretty white clothes and play croquet out on an emerald lawn all day. The reality is that parenting is outrageously difficult, important, rewarding, joyful, maddening and all kinds of other mixed emotions. I tried to capture as much of those vicissitudes as possible in this story and give voice to as many types of choice as possible in just 300 pages -- and still be entertaining!